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Thursday, September 23, 2004

hosting, php, faintheart

in a panic after i realised that one of our servers doesn't support php i remembered that our other one, with (mt) mediatemple does. i have to break some code out of a conatct page and put the script on the other server. whew.

so far, our hosting experience with mediatemple has been nothing short of stellar. we're using the ssadvanced server package with 1 gig of storage space and more. the tracking results are excellent using urchin, there is php and mysql potential, subdomains, and 10000 email addresses.

in the beginning when looking for a new host, we looked at a few companies around the world and two who were close to home. the ones close to home were not suitable at all. their customer service was terrible. one nameless group's web site told me info x. i wanted to know info x+1 and i mailed to ask them for an answer to a question i had. they told me to refer to their web site in a standard form letter. naturally, most of the info i'd included in my email came from their site. it was quite obvious i'd done some reseearch from them. another 2 companies didn't answer my requests back at all. so, they were out.

in the end, not only did (mt) mediatemple respond when i asked them a question (with a 3 page letter filled with more info than i could possibly want to have, or read in an afternoon), but a sales rep called me using my email signature to make sure i got the email. on the phone, he was relaxed and honest, and very professional. after that call and reply, i advised my current workplace to go with them. and so far, they haven't let me down.

for the hellaboss site, i use blacksun servers for hosting. i did some freelance work for a pal of mine a while ago and in exchange for the work, i offered to "be paid in hosting for a year". the blacksun servers are adequate. nothing special. there is php and urchin tracking. there is no mysql (hence the reason there is no discernable web log over there) support. they have been down about 1 day in the last 1 year of hosting however, which is a big plus. sending in a tech support question got me a reply 5 days later (i have to be honest in saying that i expect someone to be online all the time to answer queries for some reason).

at the end of this year, i'm looking to keep the domain, but transfer it to another location.

right now my options are blacksun (again), (mt) mediatemple, and segment publishing (segpub) - an outfit owned by pals of mine in australia. i don't trust any local shops to save my life (except maybe tracy's fabled hosting service), notably: execulink is out of the running for me.

now, i have been considering hosting my own site, using tangimac, my old (gasp!) tangerine imac that needs to be dusted off and set up again. i require a static ip for it to run, however and have no idea how to do that (yet).

the point of this post?

i'd like to hear your opinions on your host, who you recommend, and more. what experiences have you had with your web host (good/bad)? their tech-support team's turnaround time? who hosts you? who do you host (if that's the case)? uptime? space? bandwidth overages, transfer, and most importantly, price (cdn $ if you can, darlings). your replies will certainly affect who i decide to go with for the next year (or more).

also, i'm looking at this dissection (not for the faint of heart).

77 Comments:

Blogger Tracy said...

hey moy:

when i go to get a static ip address, i'm going to look more into these guys. they provide your internet access, you can rent to own the modem to cut down on monthly costs, and the only charge $4 cdn a month for a static ip address (execusuck charges something insane like $10 cdn a month for that). just go to that link, and click on dsl/adsl internet, and you'll see the prices are pretty reasonable.

i think that i want to switch to them, but my sympatico.ca email address is used everywhere, so i'm a little leery of changing it.

September 23, 2004 at 12:44 PM  
Blogger Tracy said...

just found out about free dns servers and such - you may not need a static ip address to host your own site. i'm currently looking at dslwebserver.com to see what they recommend - seems like a useful site.

September 23, 2004 at 2:19 PM  
Blogger moy said...

tracer, i've been looking into that a bit too. i also posted to the muglo group i'm affiliated with about using my imac as a web server too.

September 23, 2004 at 3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, the local hots are brutal. Most of them have no idea what they're doing, yet their pricing is insane. What's the deal with THAT??

Anyway, the two recommendations i usually give are Hostrocket and Netfirms.

Hostrocket has a pretty sweet deal called the "Giga-Sale" (which appears to just keep on going). It's like $8 USD for a gig of storage, 50gigs transfer (which rolls over each month), unlimited pop3 accounts, unlimited subdomains... etc. It also features PHP/MySQL. And you can get them to give you SSH access. Their tech support is pretty good: if you submit a trouble ticket, you can usually get a response within a couple hours.

As an added bonus, sign up for their referral program (through Comission Junction), and you get $95USD for each person who signs up by clicking on your link. (By the way, do me a favor and follow the HR link from the bottom of avocadoweb.com... I'll split it with ya...)

NetFirms is $5 CDN. It's obviously stripped down, but it features PHP (and I think you get one MySQL db... not sure though)

But HR is still way better. i've been with them for 3 years, and never really had any complaints.

As far as the static IP goes, try no-ip.com... it's a dyndns-like service, but they have a nice client app for OSX you might like :)

CHRIS

September 23, 2004 at 4:30 PM  
Blogger moy said...

chris, if i go that route, i will certainly do that. thanks for your HellaInsightful post, sir.

September 23, 2004 at 5:14 PM  
Blogger moy said...

luke from attaboy writes: "hey I've got to run, unfortunately... damn work. but let me tell you that I'm very happy with my hosting provider, http://retrix.com/". he continued, "and it's based in vancouver".

he know how much i like to buy canadian! unless it's execulink. :) maybe in a future post, i'll explain why i don't like 'em, like i don't like rogers high-speed.

September 24, 2004 at 9:40 AM  
Blogger Luke said...

I'd like to recommend the host that I use for my site, Retrix. They're Canadian, they're extremely friendly, and they will answer any questions or respond to any requests very quickly, often within minutes!

It doesn't look like their prices are quite as bottom-barrel low as Hostrocket, but I've never ever had a problem with Retrix -- they are as reliable as sunrise, and they support PHP, MySQL, SSI or whatever else you can throw at them.

September 24, 2004 at 9:42 AM  
Blogger moy said...

haha!

September 24, 2004 at 9:43 AM  
Blogger Junkface said...

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September 28, 2004 at 11:07 AM  
Blogger Junkface said...

okay, so i was supposed to post my thoughts on this long ago, and i kept meaning to, but i forgot. here goes:

segment publishing. this is good stuff. almost too good. it is kind of scary. who talks to their hosting provider every day? i do. because my hosting provider is also my friend. and believe me, he'll be your friend too. service is just that good.

hostrocket. TONS of space, TONS of bandwidth, CHEAP. problems--sometimes slow service, sometimes servers go down (they have like 200 now) and it takes longer than it should to get them back up. i've had a hostrocket account for about 5 years now. when i started, it was a tiny company and the service was great. now it's a big company and it is just like any other big company.

hope this helps!

September 28, 2004 at 3:43 PM  
Blogger Matthew said...

SegPub is the HellaBest. I'm telling el capitan, Mr. Jez, to come over here and check out wtfudge. So if you don't go with SegPub then frogs will rain on you when you ride Yoshi and you'll have HellaBad karma! =P

September 28, 2004 at 5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm here i'm here! Matt, I said you can talk to me and i'll give you a good deal. Thanks for the kind words Garrett :)

Jez.

September 28, 2004 at 6:02 PM  
Blogger moy said...

wow for lots of comments! still 2 away from the record 14 replies tho. keep those hosting recommendations coming!

time to get ready for work.

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